Comments on: Novell from an openSUSE perspective http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/ Martin Schlander's blog about free software and more Sun, 15 Nov 2009 07:41:15 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: ben http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-124 ben Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:06:03 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-124 NED has also taken over the iFolder project ... I even think the're violating the GPL! NED has also taken over the iFolder project …

I even think the’re violating the GPL!

]]> By: કાર્તિક મિસ્ત્રી http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-123 કાર્તિક મિસ્ત્રી Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:03:09 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-123 Very good post. Got some insight behind openSUSE and of course about Novell :) Very good post. Got some insight behind openSUSE and of course about Novell :)

]]> By: Ted Haeger http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-122 Ted Haeger Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:33:00 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-122 Martin: Did you know that I left Novell 11 months ago? I'm not part of the "Novell marketing people" that you seem to think I am. I parted ways with Novell for the very same reasons that you cite about the MS agreement--not its evilness, but the careless disregard for the people that the company never bothered to consult (including me). So, you're mostly spot on in your point, but I'd sure appreciate not being cited as one of the idiots who wrecklessly sullies openSUSE's good name. Thanks, Ted Martin:
Did you know that I left Novell 11 months ago? I’m not part of the “Novell marketing people” that you seem to think I am. I parted ways with Novell for the very same reasons that you cite about the MS agreement–not its evilness, but the careless disregard for the people that the company never bothered to consult (including me). So, you’re mostly spot on in your point, but I’d sure appreciate not being cited as one of the idiots who wrecklessly sullies openSUSE’s good name.
Thanks,
Ted

]]> By: phuonglili http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-121 phuonglili Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:30:34 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-121 Congratulation! both of your blog, and this post are high ranked in <a href="http://nghecon11.googlepages.com" rel="nofollow"> "The top blogs of the day" report</a> Congratulation! both of your blog, and this post are high ranked in
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]]> By: George http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-120 George Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:20:59 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-120 Never judge a book by its cover. As I age in this world I sometimes can never understand the actions of upper management in companies. For example, SCO and its Linux rantings, while losing but yet investors still pouring money into it. Money seems to be a factor in all of this or should I say Greed. At the time of the Novell, MS deal i noticed they needed capitol. Now back to Opensuse as it will go on no matter what Novell does mainly because it still has the backing of all of us. It is up to all of us to prove that Opensuse is the best and will remain the best which i know we can all do. All one has to do is look at the programs being developed that are immediately ported to Opensuse when completed or even in Beta. One thing we do have to admit there are areas that have proprietary code because we have no other choice if we want certain things to work mainly because of the US patent laws. Until software patents are changed we will all just mosey along doing the best we can to make Opensuse the greatest Linux distro in the world. Never judge a book by its cover. As I age in this world I sometimes can never understand the actions of upper management in companies. For example, SCO and its Linux rantings, while losing but yet investors still pouring money into it. Money seems to be a factor in all of this or should I say Greed. At the time of the Novell, MS deal i noticed they needed capitol.
Now back to Opensuse as it will go on no matter what Novell does mainly because it still has the backing of all of us. It is up to all of us to prove that Opensuse is the best and will remain the best which i know we can all do. All one has to do is look at the programs being developed that are immediately ported to Opensuse when completed or even in Beta.
One thing we do have to admit there are areas that have proprietary code because we have no other choice if we want certain things to work mainly because of the US patent laws. Until software patents are changed we will all just mosey along doing the best we can to make Opensuse the greatest Linux distro in the world.

]]> By: Alex http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-119 Alex Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:56:51 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-119 Indeed a very good post, I use linux for 4 years, and i love it, and frankly, I also started because of the anti-MS feelings, but in time i realized that it's a bit childish and imho there is no better Office suite then the MS one (pls have mercy, I'm just trying to be honest). Luckily a programmer doesn't need an office suite that often. As for ordinary users - integration is a big bonus, if it will spear them valuable time. On corporate policy; if a person speaks from the name of the company he should do it by the book, maybe there is no such book? Could that be the problem? Indeed a very good post,

I use linux for 4 years, and i love it, and frankly, I also started because of the anti-MS feelings, but in time i realized that it’s a bit childish and imho there is no better Office suite then the MS one (pls have mercy, I’m just trying to be honest). Luckily a programmer doesn’t need an office suite that often. As for ordinary users – integration is a big bonus, if it will spear them valuable time.

On corporate policy; if a person speaks from the name of the company he should do it by the book, maybe there is no such book? Could that be the problem?

]]> By: Drew http://mschlander.wordpress.com/2008/03/13/novell-from-an-opensuse-perspective/#comment-118 Drew Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:22:41 +0000 http://mschlander.wordpress.com/?p=30#comment-118 Novell and openSuse's relationship is very similar to the RedHat/Fedora one, the difference is how it is viewed. I think you have a good point here! There is no doubt that Novell has done good for Linux and Open Source but with little quips like this it has to make you wonder. Interlopability between SuSE and Microsoft is one of their strengths, but if Novell is diss-ing openSuse it has to make you wonder how good is it's Enterprise version! At least the community version has non-Novell users to help keep it pushing along, but the enterprise (paid) version doesn't have quite the same luxury! From an outsider's point of view, the RedHat/Fedora connecton seems strong (there's no doubt RedHat is involved with Fedora) but they both are running the same philosophy (as Open Source as you can be, grudgingly use non-FOSS). This synergy helps funnel people from one side to the other (enterprise users to Fedora, home users to RHEL). The Microsoft deal has been a hot topic in community forums and needs to be well clarified (if possible) for openSuse. Linux users very anti-MS will never agree to the Novell-Microsoft deal, but for people on the fence, that ambiguity and negative feelings from the anti-MS people may push them away from this great distro. Novell and openSuse’s relationship is very similar to the RedHat/Fedora one, the difference is how it is viewed.

I think you have a good point here! There is no doubt that Novell has done good for Linux and Open Source but with little quips like this it has to make you wonder.

Interlopability between SuSE and Microsoft is one of their strengths, but if Novell is diss-ing openSuse it has to make you wonder how good is it’s Enterprise version! At least the community version has non-Novell users to help keep it pushing along, but the enterprise (paid) version doesn’t have quite the same luxury!

From an outsider’s point of view, the RedHat/Fedora connecton seems strong (there’s no doubt RedHat is involved with Fedora) but they both are running the same philosophy (as Open Source as you can be, grudgingly use non-FOSS). This synergy helps funnel people from one side to the other (enterprise users to Fedora, home users to RHEL).

The Microsoft deal has been a hot topic in community forums and needs to be well clarified (if possible) for openSuse. Linux users very anti-MS will never agree to the Novell-Microsoft deal, but for people on the fence, that ambiguity and negative feelings from the anti-MS people may push them away from this great distro.

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